I picked up a Western Auto Revelation 205 30-30 a week or so ago. I've done some research, and found that my rifle was made for Western Auto by Mossberg, and is the equivalent of a Mossberg 472 PCA. The problem is with the feed lifter. When cycling the action, the lifter that the shell sits on is not lifting enough the get the round into the chamber. The bolt pushes forward on the cartridge before the bullet is high enough, and the bullet strikes the bottom edge of the chamber and does not go in. With no ammunition, the lifting block appears to be lifting enough, but with the weight of a cartridge on it, it is not.
I did a search, and it seems that this is a common problem. However, I can't find any resolutions to it. I attempted to disassemble and inspect it for myself, and can't figure out how to remove the lever/ lower portion of the action from the receiver. End of lever on Marlins (only lever guns I have) is what lifts the carrier (cartridge lifter). Assuming nothing feels like it's binding, and assuming you're getting full lever travel on downstroke, I'm wondering since it's an old gun if lever tip is worn down, or maybe carrier has deep groove worn into underside of it. Or maybe front of carrier has become bent downward?
Martin levers come out if you open action about half way, remove the one screw, and it comes out. Has to be half way open to re-insert, too. Anyway, thinking maybe you could put a few layers of masking tape or something on tip of lever to build up, hopefully stick on there long enough to see if it raises it. If it did, and if lifter seems okay, could have it built up. If it's the carrier, maybe bend a little or get groove filled in, if there is one.
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Just a thought. I'm not sure which gun forum would be best to seek further help in. OS Edited April 19, 2010 by OhShoot. End of lever on Marlins (only lever guns I have) is what lifts the carrier (cartridge lifter). Assuming nothing feels like it's binding, and assuming you're getting full lever travel on downstroke, I'm wondering since it's an old gun if lever tip is worn down, or maybe carrier has deep groove worn into underside of it.
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Or maybe front of carrier has become bent downward? Martin levers come out if you open action about half way, remove the one screw, and it comes out. Has to be half way open to re-insert, too. Anyway, thinking maybe you could put a few layers of masking tape or something on tip of lever to build up, hopefully stick on there long enough to see if it raises it. If it did, and if lifter seems okay, could have it built up.
If it's the carrier, maybe bend a little or get groove filled in, if there is one. Just a thought. I'm not sure which gun forum would be best to seek further help in. OS I was thinking along those lines, just couldn't get the thing apart to check for myself before I posted. Worse case scenario, I can build up any worn areas with a welder and then reshape them as needed.
This isn't no Marlin! Take down is completely different! Stock must come off first, then aluminum tube holding spring for trigger. Then take the two screws out of receiver on bottom, then you work the whole assembly out of rifle! This rifle was dirty but nothing worn out.
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Cleaned it good along with snaking barrel. Barrel is nice and shinny inside. Putting it back together was n't bad, just a little more complicated then a Marlin! Got it all back together and it cycles ammo out as it should! Now to get scope mounted. I took front and rear sights off.
Waiting on front and rear band to top it off, then off to range! Sorry no pictures of take down!
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